From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. Search titles only. Sep 18, 2014. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. M is a visual aiming method. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. M is aiming by the numbers. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. Silver Member. Think About It. Now according what Hal Houle taught me and my friends is There is an Edges to use for cut shot and cut. Jul 21, 2008. This is Low500 at N. Tom simpson will be glad to teach it to you for a fee. Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed his breakthrough systems to many players. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. ) CTE originated from Hal Houle. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. this particular HAL HOULE aiming system. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. Hale played high school basketball at Jordan High School in Sandy, Utah from 1960 to 1962 and won a state championship. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. . go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. My bad. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. 5 + 2. S. There is no one on the planet who does not use an aiming system - all pool players started out using a system. TATE AzB Gold Mensch. I like Mike's method in actual games, makes things much easier, no thinking or guessing. Search titles only. Well beyond the life of the. Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). . I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. . Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. . Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. I am being swamped by email and PMs about Hal Houle's aiming system. . Search titles only. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. hal houle. ”. and let's go to press. Hal Houle changed my life. . I reside in Russia and. Although, like San Jose Dick, the math is over my head and the physics lingo wrecks my game because I am thinking about when I play, I KNOW that there is merit to these systems and I will rejoice when the math and science guys figure it out and give people like Hal Houle and Ron V. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. Watched the World 10 Ball Championships2022. So no, not playing the victim at all. The best person to ask is Hal himself. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Stan has worked on the center to edge system over the past 10 years and refined it into a method called “Pro One. #1. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. By: Search Advanced search…Fellow CTE Enthusiasts, If I could get an answer to this one hurdle in my CTE learning journey I would be thrilled. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. I've kept the thread alive as there is a discussion below on the book) Amazon published my book on Ralph Greenleaf,. If there were 10. There are players that swear by them, and just as many that say they don't work. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. You know this is false. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. C. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. Basic aiming systems “aiming” FAQ page on my website. S. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions to help you determine the appropriate spot on the object ball to strike with the cue ball. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Recognizing those. " Hal's greatest joy was. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. i teach professional aiming systems. I came into this multi-decade argument a few months ago after having learned basic CTE from Hal years ago. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. Some players took as long as 6 seconds before pulling. The step by step process will be revealed. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Pool lost a pioneer. It was posted here about 6. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. By: Search Advanced search…Hal houle is the creator of this system. EVER allow Fast Larry to post on AZ under his name with your consent, approval, and blessing from now until the day you leave AZ or. We located 1 sex offender matching the name "Paul Houle" in the US. . And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. I tried the Hal Houle edge of the ball system, but I found that I was never. Even Mother Teresa and Ghandi have detractors. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. Stan called this phenomenon “something that was. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. I like. cookie man AzB Silver Member. Here's another juicy secret I call Pivot Aim, used by Johnny Archer and Efren Reyes, and taught by me, Hal Houle and others to an elite few before this article. A. Any videos of Jimmy from around this period, included the video cited in this thread, clearly show Jimmy pivoting into center ball from. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. H. When I learned this from Hal over a decade ago, I started experimenting with a center of the CB placement pivoting to. And I listened. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. S. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. we know that you and Hal were close. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. Condolences to his wife and family. No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. pj chgo . There is nothing on Earth Stan or Hal Houle could have done without getting blasted for one thing or another. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. CTE PRO. #2. Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. this came about with lateral thinking - thinking far outside the box by hal houle and then stan shuffett. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. ”. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. Gulfport, Mississippi. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). In this example the pot required is a thinner hit than half ball, lets say 35 degrees. A. good evening America. In TP A. Yes, I aim to put ball in pocket. Started playing in 1934. You won't be so lucky. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. . Or at least completely new to wanting to be a damn good player. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. So much easier it's mind numbing. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. It is a system that is surrounded by plenty of skepticism, for sure. Silver Member. . I don't know why and frankly I. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. . Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. I have been playing pool since I was seven, shining shoes in bars, I'm 63. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. the method fits the definition. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. Search titles only. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. Or match what is on the. Stan's Truth series illuminates the secrets of CTE that Hal Houle purposefully failed to provide when he first discussed this aiming system. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. Hal Houle . These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. G. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. . These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. he did the same thing to hal houle. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. 4. Basically the system is about a limited number of aiming points Full Ball hit 3/4 Ball hit (approx 15 degrees) 1/2 Ball hit (approx 30 degrees) 1/4 Ball hit (approx 45 degrees) And the Thin Hit Do a search for Hal Houle for. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. . The one we've heard about here is the. WATERTOWN – Barbara Houle passed into the loving arms of God in the early morning hours of July 30, 2023. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. #4. 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. Yes. Aiming ConversationThis is THE BOOK, detailing exactly how CTE Pro One can improve your game. S. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. How does this work. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. . You have to understand this was back in the day of land lines, 411, and telephone directories and if you were listed anyone could get your phone number. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. pj chgo . . Then carried it over to here when this site was put. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. To zero in on A or C, I simply line up the edge of the cueball to B first, as this is a very. Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. My name is Hal Houle. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. As has been discussed from time to time (a euphemism for ad nauseam), fractional aiming systems would appear to require an adjustment method for shots that don't fall exactly into the categories of half-ball hit (center-to-edge) or the other general aim guides. Started playing in 1934. A and C are the object ball quarters. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. Nothing any more complicated than those 3 lines. Silver Member. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Hal Houle. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. The aiming forum was created to a large part for PJ. JB Cases Silver Member. by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. It's just a fact of life that no matter what you do there are people who find issue with it. If there were 10. ALL of which had a pivot including CTE. i have a comment which will go something like this---many years ago there was a man named hal houle--houle as in pool he used to say! he posted on rsb to the dismay of most- an aiming system - boasting of 6 angles . Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. Army and was stationed in GermanIt is a given that the tip can be used as a device to point the cue to certain recognizable spots on the OB. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email inviting me His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. A. I am so glad Hal is finally starting to get some if the respect he do rightfully deserves. & Mrs. I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. So the non-users consider that false advertisement. . . As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. His name has been on and off fourms for years. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. I was at fast eddies practicing. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Instruction & Ask the pros. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ? Hal was the only pool player in his family tree and the community here on AZB probably knows more about his pool life, adventures and accomplishments than they do, so Sunny asked if I would ask the members here to post their stories about Hal so they can be read at his funeral. His best results are winning a stage in. He was born on November 4, 1931, in Darby, Pennsylvania. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. add another ball that can be used with. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. So no, not playing the victim at all. . Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. . If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. It also had absolutely nothing to do with CONTACT POINTS. hang in. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. We spent the morning working on some stroke, stance and footwork tweaks along with Stan sharing a few of his favorite drills. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. . By: Search Advanced search…HEY GUYS MY 2 CENTS the CTE devotees we know who you are EVERYONE ELSE. . . A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. . Jul 25, 2005. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. Hal Houle was a very unique individual! Hal was intelligent, had a great wit and lived a long, varied and interesting life. The method of backhand English wouldn't have changed to "not backhand English. E. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. Silver Member. How does this work. The man genuinely wanted to share his knowledge with as many people as he could and did it for free. Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). I thought to myself, that idea. add another ball that can be used with. Aiming ConversationThe time you spent with me practicing in your booth at the tournament was impressionable for me. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. From. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. I wish I would have known him back when he and I were younger. So far I have shown beginners and advanced players alike this system and they are all pocketing balls in the center of. Because Hal Houle and Stan Shuffett created them Click to expand. I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. Cherished mother of. . 5 years ago. you have nothing to lose. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. It was what got his mind thinking about what we see on pool balls and how CTE came to be. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. Hal Houle. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. Silver Member. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. Hal Houle's Aiming Cyrus Jackson 6 videos 165 views Last updated on Jan 28, 2022 Play all Shuffle 1 2:02 1 Position, 10 Shots Sean Higgins • 5. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. . Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. From the very first ball i. Then after I got home. Efren: Oh, aim. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. Apparently he had many aiming systems. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. Hal Hale was an American basketball player and coach. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. S. Also, now in effect, all. “When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. By: Search Advanced search…Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. If you want. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. Stan Shuffett, a pool player and instructor from Kentucky, took deep interest in CTE and refined it to his own system known as CTE Pro/One. Oh wait, I forgot. B. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Jamie Ferrel - Perfect Aim as reported by Joey A. It was posted here about 6. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. It's great that Stan has been able to get CTE even farther. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. most of philipeno player are using Busty. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. S. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. To the "Putdown Posse", Mr. . . I'd like to post his name but I.